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Missed Trigger or OooS

Nov. 4, 2015 07:20:52 PM

Philip Böhm
Judge (Uncertified), Tournament Organizer

German-speaking countries

Missed Trigger or OooS



PlayerA casts a Ruin Processor and, as he puts it on the table, announces "When this resolves, I will put your Mountain from Exile to your graveyard and gain 5 life". PlayerB is aware that Ruin Processor has an “on cast” trigger rather than a “enter the battlefield” trigger. He says “resolves, but at this point I think you missed the trigger already.” - They don't agree on that, therefore call for a judge.

At Competitive REL/Professional REL, how can the judge distinguish Out of order sequencing from a missed trigger here ?

Nov. 4, 2015 07:26:19 PM

Nicholas Zitomer
Judge (Level 3 (Judge Academy))

USA - Southeast

Missed Trigger or OooS

I don't see this as any infraction or OoOS. For all an observer knows here, player A may be referring to the trigger itself resolving.

Nov. 4, 2015 07:31:13 PM

Scott Marshall
Forum Moderator
Judge (Level 4 (Judge Foundry)), Hall of Fame

USA - Southwest

Missed Trigger or OooS

“Player B, don't be a jerk. Trigger resolves.”

d:^D

Nov. 10, 2015 08:07:28 PM

Jordan McQueen
Judge (Uncertified)

USA - Pacific Northwest

Missed Trigger or OooS

Out of Order Sequencing, if applicable to a situation, will override what would otherwise be considered a Missed Trigger. Although, in this case, I don't think this would be a missed trigger even if we didn't have the Out of Order Sequencing section of policy.

Nov. 10, 2015 11:47:53 PM

Benjamin Lurie
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy))

USA - Great Lakes

Missed Trigger or OooS

I agree with everyone above triggers like that are really only missed once significant game actions have been made, and in my mind a spell resolving hardly qualifies.