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Melira and Persist

April 13, 2013 12:47:24 AM

Jenni Ginn
Canada - Western Provinces

Melira and Persist

Melira, Sylvok Outcast is given persist in some way and dies. When she returns she returns with a -1/-1 counter, and 112.6h does not apply, correct?

Tatterkite would invoke 112.6h, but not Melira?

Edited Jenni Ginn (April 13, 2013 12:48:01 AM)

April 16, 2013 04:08:20 PM

Daniel Kitachewsky
Judge (Uncertified)

France

Melira and Persist

She will enter the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter.

When a permanent is entering the battlefield, you process replacement effects affecting this event before it actually happens.

You take into account:
- replacement effects from objects already on the battlefield,
- replacement effects from the object entering the battlefield that affect itself specifically.

You do not take into account replacement effects created by the object entering the battlefield that affect a group of objects, even if the object itself happens to be in a group.

Melira affects a group, so she doesn't affect her own entering the battlefield.

Tatterkite affects itself specifically, so it affects its own entering the battlefield and will enter with no counters.

Daniel Kitachewsky
L3, Paris, France
Rules NetRep