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Field of Dreams and Brainstorm

Jan. 10, 2014 05:45:26 AM

Jan Brinkmann
Judge (Uncertified), Scorekeeper

German-speaking countries

Field of Dreams and Brainstorm

Helle everybody,

Field of Dreams is online and one player casts Brainstorm.
Do alle players see which cards that player draws, the libraries top card after drawing three cards (i.e., the 4th card) and both cards put back?

My first assumption was that all players see all cards since we have a continous effect from Field of Dreams that is applied after all five single events from Brainstorm.
But after reading the gatherer rules (see Field of Dreams) and counseling with some other judges, we came to an other conclusion: The 4th card and the first card put back are not revealed because Field of Dreams' effect is only applied during resolving an ability if one player draws a card.

Is the second conclusion correct? Can anybody tell my why the effect is not applied after each event?

Best regards
Jan

Edited Jan Brinkmann (Jan. 10, 2014 05:46:11 AM)

Jan. 10, 2014 06:16:59 AM

Daniel Kitachewsky
Judge (Uncertified)

France

Field of Dreams and Brainstorm

The top card is revealed:
- Before Brainstorm resolves
- After the first card is drawn
- After the second card is drawn
- After the third card is drawn
- After both cards have been put back.

Usually, one verb corresponds to one atomic action. The game doesn't have a state in the middle of the action; it only has a before and an after. That's why you see the top card before putting the two cards back and after putting the two cards back; but there's no game moment where only one of them has been put back. So the card that ends up second from top is not revealed at all.

Card drawing has a special rule that makes drawing multiple cards multiple actions. There is no way to draw 2 cards, it's automatically converted into “draw a card, then draw a card.” The reason is that individual card draws need to be replaceable for the purposes of Words of Wind and similar effects. If “draw 2 cards” was an atomic action, it would be very difficult to determine what happens when one or more card draws are replaced.

So with Brainstorm and Field of Dreams, each card draw is an atomic action, so each time a card is drawn, the next card is revealed.

Daniel Kitachewsky
L3, Paris, France
Rules NetRep

Edited Daniel Kitachewsky (Jan. 10, 2014 06:17:19 AM)