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Master Biomancer + Joraga Warcaller

Oct. 5, 2014 11:12:13 PM

Eduardo Canali
Judge (Uncertified)

Brazil

Master Biomancer + Joraga Warcaller

How to procede in this situacion, when the Master is on the batterfield and the Joraga is casted with Multikicker for X, when X is more than zero?

Since it's both replacemant effects, can you choose which apply first?

Oct. 7, 2014 02:01:31 PM

Callum Milne
Forum Moderator
Judge (Uncertified)

Canada - Western Provinces

Master Biomancer + Joraga Warcaller

You do choose which replacement effect to apply first, but which one you choose won't make any difference here. Either way, you'll get two counters from Master Biomancer (assuming nothing else is boosting it) and one for each time you kicked Joraga Warcaller. No more than that.

Replacement effects work by looking at the very next set of instructions the game is about to follow and modifying those instructions before they can be carried out. The instructions are modified again and again until no more replacement effects want to apply, and only after that whole process do you actually follow whatever the instructions ended up being after all the modifications. Applying the replacement effects from Joraga Warcaller and Master Biomancer don't put the counters on the Warcaller immediately–they modify the game's instructions for how to put the Warcaller onto the battlefield, which won't actually happen until both the Warcaller and Biomancer are done editing.

Since Joraga Warcaller's elf-boosting ability only functions while the Warcaller is already on the battlefield, and the Warcaller doesn't get the counters or enter the battlefield until after all relevant replacement effects have been applied, there is no way for a Joraga Warcaller to boost Master Biomancer's power in time to put additional counters on itself.