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Scouting or Outside Assistance?

March 26, 2016 01:30:06 PM

Hank Wiest
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy)), Scorekeeper

USA - Northeast

Scouting or Outside Assistance?

During a Star City IQ in which I was a player, a friend of mine asked me if it was permissible to ask around and find out what people are playing between rounds. Since the IPG only specifies OA when the match has begun, I was reasonably confident that as long he was looking for information before he sat down for a match or after he left the table, it was okay. I'm reasonably certain I'm right, but was wondering how you determine where scouting ends and OA begins, since the line admittedly seems a little fuzzy to me.

March 26, 2016 01:35:58 PM

Dustin De Leeuw
Judge (Level 3 (International Judge Program)), Tournament Organizer

BeNeLux

Scouting or Outside Assistance?

Originally posted by Hank Wiest:

Since the IPG only specifies OA when the match has begun

I love it when people answer their own questions :)

March 26, 2016 02:15:50 PM

Scott Marshall
Forum Moderator
Judge (Level 4 (Judge Foundry)), Hall of Fame

USA - Southwest

Scouting or Outside Assistance?

Originally posted by Hank Wiest:

wondering how you determine where scouting ends and OA begins
Consistent with the wording in the IPG, we've always held that, once you sit down for your match, you could no longer ask for OA.

Example: on my way to my match, I say “hey, Tony, do you know what Paul is playing?” –> OK
Example: I sit, George sits across from me, and I say “hey, Tony, do you know what George is playing?” –> Not OK

Originally posted by Hank Wiest:

the IPG only specifies OA when the match has begun
Actually, the IPG only says “once he or she has sat for his or her match”. Minor nitpick, but - hey, it's my job. :)

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